The talk about guns between gun owners and others is often merely prepared speech on both sides. Those for no change in the law site the woman who was murdered or raped, and state if she had a gun she would have been spared. The other side quotes the statistics about the chances of being harmed by having a gun in your home. This is not a dialogue, and will not lead to less violence. Both sides need to respect the outcome desired which is less violence not winning a debate. Together there will be rational agreements that will be part of the solution.